Maladaptive Daydreaming: where wild minds come to rest
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Hey Cordellia,
Yes, you are right. I have thought about the possibility that if I was not in control of the hullicinations, whether or not I would know what was real or not. I do have an interest however at what my brain is capable of. I've used alcohol to increase my awareness of thought. I'll plan to drink enough where most people get goofy, but not to get sick. I did that once and that wasn't fun. But my only goal in drinking like that is to fight the alcohol. I can do it fairly well now. I mean, I have my physical limitations. My body functions differently with a foreign substance in it, but I'm impressed by how well I can fight it. It's hard. It takes a lot of energy, but it makes me stronger each time.
I got high once and it wasn't by choice. My friends were smoking around me and I guess I caught wiff of it. We were at a night club and it felt like I was dreaming. No hallucinations. I just sat quietly and tried to fight it. I had a very hard time keeping attention and it ruined the night for me. But I want to recreate that experience in a controlled setting. It would be one thing to be able to oontrol it; it would be another to teach my brain how to do it by itself...The real goal here isn't necessarlily to project my fantasy into the real world though. I dream of being able to perceive the world in new ways, much like if I was able to connect a computer to my brain and enter into a VR world. I could take snap shots and store them away for later. Write notes I could visably see. Create projections of people and places. Memories could be in HD 3D, so to say. It's a little crazy and it is a fantasy of mine, but I like my imagination to be somewhat rooted in the real world. If it's possible, cool; if not, it's a fun dream to imagine about.
Thanks for Cynthia's email, I just sent her one.
Night,
Heinriech
Cordellia Amethyste Rose said:Hi there. Sorry if this is short. I've been at Saturday Market all day.
As for hallucinations: I've never tried it, but I suspect it's possible. I, for one, am afraid of hallucinations. My fantasy world (it's been one main one for over 20 years) has been so real & encompassing that I've always had a fear I'd go crazy & lose what little grip I had on reality. I've had a lot of insomnia problems over the years and one of the side-effects is in-between states where you're partially asleep and partially awake. Usually I'm mostly one or the other, so it's uncomfortable but not disturbing. I did have a few episodes where I was stuck halfway in between, and that really was scary because I couldn't tell if I was awake or not. I was sitting up looking around me & trying to decide if I was in my room or at the store, where my dream was. It felt like hours before I finally figured out I should lay down & go to sleep. I've also had some problems with marijuana in the past, and that would make me so paranoid I'd almost hallucinate. Lately I've been dreaming about my fantasy characters at times. While none of these are hallucinations per se, they're close enough to make it seem very possible. I'm still not sure why you'd want to though. Aren't you worried you'll lose grip on reality? You may not. It's just a fear of mine.
First of all, I want to say that I don't have MD. At least, I don't think so. I don't have all the symptoms, because my daydreaming has never affected my real life, and my head never starts to hurt when I'm daydreaming, and I never pace or twitch or anything. And I have never gotten the real world and my fantasy world confused with each other. But I still daydream A LOT.
I started daydreaming when I was 9 (I'm 13 now). I daydream mostly when I'm bored, or while I'm doing my hair or when I'm in the shower or something. And I find myself daydreaming a lot when I listen to music. My daydreaming never distracts me, because I can sort of control it. For example, I can stop daydreaming to do my homework, but then I'll start daydreaming again right after that. I can never seem to stop daydreaming altogether, though. Except lately, I've found that writing down my daydreams helps a lot, and ever since I started carrying a journal with me everywhere, I've been daydreaming a lot less. If you ever met me in real life, you would have no idea how much I daydream. xD I think I might just have an overactive imagination, because I'm an only child and I need something to keep me busy.
My daydreams are not about me. I have never been in my daydreams. That's why I don't like to call them daydreams, I usually call it "the neverending story in my head". My stories are about these characters that I made up... most of them look like celebrities, but I changed their names and gave them different personalities and interests. I actually have 3 different stories that I like to think about. The world that my characters live in is not on another planet, it's not in another universe, it's just the Earth, like it is now. Except I sort of changed some things. xD For example, it's perfectly acceptable, where my characters live, to keep hot chocolate in your basement [long story]. Or to have tattoos when you're 14. xD If I ever see something in a movie or on TV that I like, or if I read something in a book that I like, or even if I just think of something that I think is interesting, I'll just put it into my story. I know that I mentioned before that I am not in my story, but I've found that a lot of my characters [even the guy characters sometimes!] represent me in a way. I think that I keep thinking about this story, because I want my life to be interesting, like my characters's lives are. I just can't seem to realize that if I want my life to be interesting, I should actually do something to make it interesting instead of sitting around imagining about how interesting my life could be.
Except for my mom, my best friend, and of course, you guys, I have never told anyone about my stories. I'm afraid they'll think I'm a freak. But I swear I'm not!! xD Before last week, I didn't even know that this had a name, or that there were other people that think of stories besides me. My mom thinks that I'm looking too much into this, that I just have an overactive imagination and that there's nothing to worry about. And I think she might be right. But it still feels good to know that I'm not the only one.
Wow. This was a long comment. Sorry! x'DDD
I can't begin to tell you how good it feels to get this off my chest...
I never thought of my endless daydreaming as a problem until recently when I realized how intrusive it's become on my real life. I'm 29 years old and have been fantasizng as early as I can remember. The earliest memory I have of making up stories in my head is 5 years old. As I got older they just got more elaborate and realistic in detail, I guess as they should but fantasizing was always preferable to any real life activity. For the past few years specifically, I've been so enveloped in these daydreams that I wasn't able to see the effect on the quality of my life. Reading books, I drift off, watching television I drift off, amidst a group of people I drift off. I handle my responsibilities but just so I can get back to fantasizing, it sounds ridiculous I know to most people, but there isn't much I enjoy more. Some "scenarios/stories" last months and I spend hours working them in my head like a movie, like the one I'm involved in now. Just like a previous poster, I admit, and only here, that I am in love with someone who doesn't exist. It's painful to come out of the fantasy into reality and know that I'll never get to touch him in this life or I'll never even get to see a picture of him.
I'd be willing to answer some of Cynthia's questions if its truly confidential. No one at all knows about my addiction to a fictional world. I love fantasizing, I don't want to stop but it's ruining my life. I'm becoming forgetful, crabby when I'm interrupted during a fantasy, and even neglecting my responsibilities. I clean less, pay little attention to detail, sort of feel robotic in my day to day activities, I pay little attention to my husband and sometimes even compare him to my fantasy love. I hate myself for knowing that I may be missing out on the small things that my 3 year old is learning to do. I know I may be missing out on so many things real life has to offer but then again I feel like I have no interest in participating that way. I don't have friends, I'm awkward around people because I hate small talk, or I get just plain bored listening to the mundaneness of their lives. My life isn't anything to talk about either, probably because I prefer the limitless choices of fantasy. I don't mind spending weekends not doing anything as long as I can daydream. I'm upset that I've let it get so out of hand. I'm never happier than when I'm with my fantasy love. It's a love I've never felt --from someone I'll never meet. I'm afraid that at some point I'll forget its a fantasy and I'll run across the country in search of him -- and find him -- but again that sounds just like one of my daydreams.
I read a set of symptoms on daydreamdisorder.com and each describes me to a "T" (minus the repetitive movements - when I zone out I stare). I know this is not just an ordinary case of daydreaming. I'm almost 30 and my fantasies are what I love most about life (besides my son). I know being forgetful is part of the consequences of being so involved in daydreaming, feeling depressed when you have to come back to the real world. I don't want to stop but maybe find a better way to manage it. It sounds like crazy talk from an addict but I don't know what else to do.
I can't begin to tell you how good it feels to get this off my chest...
I never thought of my endless daydreaming as a problem until recently when I realized how intrusive it's become on my real life. I'm 29 years old and have been fantasizng as early as I can remember. The earliest memory I have of making up stories in my head is 5 years old. As I got older they just got more elaborate and realistic in detail, I guess as they should but fantasizing was always preferable to any real life activity. For the past few years specifically, I've been so enveloped in these daydreams that I wasn't able to see the effect on the quality of my life. Reading books, I drift off, watching television I drift off, amidst a group of people I drift off. I handle my responsibilities but just so I can get back to fantasizing, it sounds ridiculous I know to most people, but there isn't much I enjoy more. Some "scenarios/stories" last months and I spend hours working them in my head like a movie, like the one I'm involved in now. Just like a previous poster, I admit, and only here, that I am in love with someone who doesn't exist. It's painful to come out of the fantasy into reality and know that I'll never get to touch him in this life or I'll never even get to see a picture of him.
I'd be willing to answer some of Cynthia's questions if its truly confidential. No one at all knows about my addiction to a fictional world. I love fantasizing, I don't want to stop but it's ruining my life. I'm becoming forgetful, crabby when I'm interrupted during a fantasy, and even neglecting my responsibilities. I clean less, pay little attention to detail, sort of feel robotic in my day to day activities, I pay little attention to my husband and sometimes even compare him to my fantasy love. I hate myself for knowing that I may be missing out on the small things that my 3 year old is learning to do. I know I may be missing out on so many things real life has to offer but then again I feel like I have no interest in participating that way. I don't have friends, I'm awkward around people because I hate small talk, or I get just plain bored listening to the mundaneness of their lives. My life isn't anything to talk about either, probably because I prefer the limitless choices of fantasy. I don't mind spending weekends not doing anything as long as I can daydream. I'm upset that I've let it get so out of hand. I'm never happier than when I'm with my fantasy love. It's a love I've never felt --from someone I'll never meet. I'm afraid that at some point I'll forget its a fantasy and I'll run across the country in search of him -- and find him -- but again that sounds just like one of my daydreams.
I read a set of symptoms on daydreamdisorder.com and each describes me to a "T" (minus the repetitive movements - when I zone out I stare). I know this is not just an ordinary case of daydreaming. I'm almost 30 and my fantasies are what I love most about life (besides my son). I know being forgetful is part of the consequences of being so involved in daydreaming, feeling depressed when you have to come back to the real world. I don't want to stop but maybe find a better way to manage it. It sounds like crazy talk from an addict but I don't know what else to do.
I am very happy and relieved to have found this website! Throughout all the years I've been using the Internet, I've been trying desperately to find other people who daydream as often and as intensely as I do. Before discovering this website, the only other people whom I talked to who had intense fantasy worlds were schizophrenics who believed that their worlds and characters were real. I knew that that wasn't anything like me, because I have always been able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I also tried looking for adults with imaginary friends, because I've always referred to the characters who reside in my daydream worlds as "imaginary friends" even though they don't technically function like traditional imaginary friends. I almost completely gave up looking for others like me, but one day I came across the Wikipedia article for Maladaptive Daydreaming, decided to google it, and the rest is history. :)
I'm a "lifer" - I've been daydreaming as far back as I can remember, starting from around the age of 3 (I'm 20 now). The vast majority of characters who reside in my daydreams have always been characters from whichever TV shows or movies I am obsessed with at a given time, and they interact with my idealized self and each other in a setting which I create myself. I tweak the characters' backstories, lifestyles and even personalities in whichever ways I deem fit for the stories I make up about them. In a couple of cases, this has led to the characters barely resembling their "canon" selves. Starting from around the age of 16, I have enjoyed playing "matchmaker" for the characters in my world. I am addicted to slash (same-sex) pairings, and one of my favorite things to do is to pair off characters from different shows/movies whom I think would go well together. I enjoy making up children for them because I think it's fun and interesting to imagine the genetics, parenting styles and family dynamics of different characters.
I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (a form of high-functioning autism), OCD, anxiety disorder and depression. I am on several medications for the latter three, all of which have worked miraculously well and have greatly improved my quality of life. My autism has caused me to be socially inept and unable to work a job or live on my own. I cannot drive either, so I am often stuck at home for days upon days. I very seldom get bored though, because I immerse myself as deeply as I can in my fantasy world.
I access my fantasy world by listening to music on my iPod and running around in circles out in the park that's literally right outside my backyard. I have been made fun of by people for this, but it doesn't bother me very much. When I am in my fantasy world, I am completely oblivious and almost literally blind to everything that is going on in the real world. Therefore, I am not allowed to run in the park unless one of my family members is home to watch over me from the kitchen window. If no one is home with me, if the weather is bad or if it is the middle of the night, I listen to my iPod and pace around my room while walking on tip-toes.
I become very upset and angry if I am interrupted while in my fantasy world. There are some days when I wish everyone would just go away and leave me alone so that I can have hours and hours of uninterrupted daydreaming time.
My urge to daydream becomes overpowering when I watch one of the movies which contain characters who reside in my fantasy world. Many times I can't finish the movie in one sitting because the urge to daydream becomes so strong that I have to pause the movie so that I can pace and go visit the characters in my fantasy world.Hello! I find it fascinating that you have Aspergers Syndrome because I work with teenagers who have "intellectual disabilities" including Autism and Aspergers. You write amazingly well, I've never met anyone on the Autistic Spectrum who is so articulate! There is a young man at my work, he has MD, only I know that of course, everyone else just thinks that he likes to run around and talk to himself because of his intellectual disability!
He gets really, really angry if someone interrupts him. He once told me he was going to get his spaceship to blow me up after I asked him if he wanted to go to the park! He has also threatened to burn down the building if we interrupted him again!
This is sometimes how I feel when interrupted, except I have a "filter" that tells me how to respond in an appropriate manner and he is just completely honest!
Alex in Wonderland said:
I am very happy and relieved to have found this website! Throughout all the years I've been using the Internet, I've been trying desperately to find other people who daydream as often and as intensely as I do. Before discovering this website, the only other people whom I talked to who had intense fantasy worlds were schizophrenics who believed that their worlds and characters were real. I knew that that wasn't anything like me, because I have always been able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I also tried looking for adults with imaginary friends, because I've always referred to the characters who reside in my daydream worlds as "imaginary friends" even though they don't technically function like traditional imaginary friends. I almost completely gave up looking for others like me, but one day I came across the Wikipedia article for Maladaptive Daydreaming, decided to google it, and the rest is history. :)
I'm a "lifer" - I've been daydreaming as far back as I can remember, starting from around the age of 3 (I'm 20 now). The vast majority of characters who reside in my daydreams have always been characters from whichever TV shows or movies I am obsessed with at a given time, and they interact with my idealized self and each other in a setting which I create myself. I tweak the characters' backstories, lifestyles and even personalities in whichever ways I deem fit for the stories I make up about them. In a couple of cases, this has led to the characters barely resembling their "canon" selves. Starting from around the age of 16, I have enjoyed playing "matchmaker" for the characters in my world. I am addicted to slash (same-sex) pairings, and one of my favorite things to do is to pair off characters from different shows/movies whom I think would go well together. I enjoy making up children for them because I think it's fun and interesting to imagine the genetics, parenting styles and family dynamics of different characters.
I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (a form of high-functioning autism), OCD, anxiety disorder and depression. I am on several medications for the latter three, all of which have worked miraculously well and have greatly improved my quality of life. My autism has caused me to be socially inept and unable to work a job or live on my own. I cannot drive either, so I am often stuck at home for days upon days. I very seldom get bored though, because I immerse myself as deeply as I can in my fantasy world.
I access my fantasy world by listening to music on my iPod and running around in circles out in the park that's literally right outside my backyard. I have been made fun of by people for this, but it doesn't bother me very much. When I am in my fantasy world, I am completely oblivious and almost literally blind to everything that is going on in the real world. Therefore, I am not allowed to run in the park unless one of my family members is home to watch over me from the kitchen window. If no one is home with me, if the weather is bad or if it is the middle of the night, I listen to my iPod and pace around my room while walking on tip-toes.
I become very upset and angry if I am interrupted while in my fantasy world. There are some days when I wish everyone would just go away and leave me alone so that I can have hours and hours of uninterrupted daydreaming time.
My urge to daydream becomes overpowering when I watch one of the movies which contain characters who reside in my fantasy world. Many times I can't finish the movie in one sitting because the urge to daydream becomes so strong that I have to pause the movie so that I can pace and go visit the characters in my fantasy world.
Hello! I find it fascinating that you have Aspergers Syndrome because I work with teenagers who have "intellectual disabilities" including Autism and Aspergers. You write amazingly well, I've never met anyone on the Autistic Spectrum who is so articulate! There is a young man at my work, he has MD, only I know that of course, everyone else just thinks that he likes to run around and talk to himself because of his intellectual disability!
He gets really, really angry if someone interrupts him. He once told me he was going to get his spaceship to blow me up after I asked him if he wanted to go to the park! He has also threatened to burn down the building if we interrupted him again!
This is sometimes how I feel when interrupted, except I have a "filter" that tells me how to respond in an appropriate manner and he is just completely honest!
Alex in Wonderland said:I am very happy and relieved to have found this website! Throughout all the years I've been using the Internet, I've been trying desperately to find other people who daydream as often and as intensely as I do. Before discovering this website, the only other people whom I talked to who had intense fantasy worlds were schizophrenics who believed that their worlds and characters were real. I knew that that wasn't anything like me, because I have always been able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I also tried looking for adults with imaginary friends, because I've always referred to the characters who reside in my daydream worlds as "imaginary friends" even though they don't technically function like traditional imaginary friends. I almost completely gave up looking for others like me, but one day I came across the Wikipedia article for Maladaptive Daydreaming, decided to google it, and the rest is history. :)
I'm a "lifer" - I've been daydreaming as far back as I can remember, starting from around the age of 3 (I'm 20 now). The vast majority of characters who reside in my daydreams have always been characters from whichever TV shows or movies I am obsessed with at a given time, and they interact with my idealized self and each other in a setting which I create myself. I tweak the characters' backstories, lifestyles and even personalities in whichever ways I deem fit for the stories I make up about them. In a couple of cases, this has led to the characters barely resembling their "canon" selves. Starting from around the age of 16, I have enjoyed playing "matchmaker" for the characters in my world. I am addicted to slash (same-sex) pairings, and one of my favorite things to do is to pair off characters from different shows/movies whom I think would go well together. I enjoy making up children for them because I think it's fun and interesting to imagine the genetics, parenting styles and family dynamics of different characters.
I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (a form of high-functioning autism), OCD, anxiety disorder and depression. I am on several medications for the latter three, all of which have worked miraculously well and have greatly improved my quality of life. My autism has caused me to be socially inept and unable to work a job or live on my own. I cannot drive either, so I am often stuck at home for days upon days. I very seldom get bored though, because I immerse myself as deeply as I can in my fantasy world.
I access my fantasy world by listening to music on my iPod and running around in circles out in the park that's literally right outside my backyard. I have been made fun of by people for this, but it doesn't bother me very much. When I am in my fantasy world, I am completely oblivious and almost literally blind to everything that is going on in the real world. Therefore, I am not allowed to run in the park unless one of my family members is home to watch over me from the kitchen window. If no one is home with me, if the weather is bad or if it is the middle of the night, I listen to my iPod and pace around my room while walking on tip-toes.
I become very upset and angry if I am interrupted while in my fantasy world. There are some days when I wish everyone would just go away and leave me alone so that I can have hours and hours of uninterrupted daydreaming time.
My urge to daydream becomes overpowering when I watch one of the movies which contain characters who reside in my fantasy world. Many times I can't finish the movie in one sitting because the urge to daydream becomes so strong that I have to pause the movie so that I can pace and go visit the characters in my fantasy world.
Actually the "Autistic Spectrum" refers to all the associated "disorders"including Asperges. They change the definition often as they learn more about it. Aspergers is in itself a separate diagnosis on the spectrum. There's good info here: http://www.asperger-advice.com/autism-spectrum-disorders.html
I was not trying to be derogatory at all, I fight for awareness, acceptance and inclusion as part of my job and it's a job I am very passionate about. I was merely saying that the teenagers I work with cannot write well at all (mainly due to the education system giving up on them or writing them off at an early age). Believe me, I know how intelligent the people at my work are, usually far more than most of the people I know.
Sorry if I offended, it was not my intent.
Cordellia Amethyste Rose said:
Lots of people who get diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (formerly called Asperger's) are very intelligent and articulate. I have the diagnosis as well, but I avoid telling people for the simple reason that I get tired of being told how surprisingly smart I am. People really instantly prepare to treat you differently, handle you with kid gloves, and essentially talk down to you. It's completely inappropriate. I really hope to change the stigma around this & other conditions. It's just a way of thinking. It's not a handicap or a defect. Neither is MD or any other psychological condition. There is nothing defective about us.....any of us. When people try to help me, advise me, or tell me I'm "so smart"........like they were assuming otherwise, I have to really correct them. No one is in a position to look down upon or fix me. I'm not broken. This attitude is broken.
Nico Lilly said:Hello! I find it fascinating that you have Aspergers Syndrome because I work with teenagers who have "intellectual disabilities" including Autism and Aspergers. You write amazingly well, I've never met anyone on the Autistic Spectrum who is so articulate! There is a young man at my work, he has MD, only I know that of course, everyone else just thinks that he likes to run around and talk to himself because of his intellectual disability!
He gets really, really angry if someone interrupts him. He once told me he was going to get his spaceship to blow me up after I asked him if he wanted to go to the park! He has also threatened to burn down the building if we interrupted him again!
This is sometimes how I feel when interrupted, except I have a "filter" that tells me how to respond in an appropriate manner and he is just completely honest!
Alex in Wonderland said:I am very happy and relieved to have found this website! Throughout all the years I've been using the Internet, I've been trying desperately to find other people who daydream as often and as intensely as I do. Before discovering this website, the only other people whom I talked to who had intense fantasy worlds were schizophrenics who believed that their worlds and characters were real. I knew that that wasn't anything like me, because I have always been able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I also tried looking for adults with imaginary friends, because I've always referred to the characters who reside in my daydream worlds as "imaginary friends" even though they don't technically function like traditional imaginary friends. I almost completely gave up looking for others like me, but one day I came across the Wikipedia article for Maladaptive Daydreaming, decided to google it, and the rest is history. :)
I'm a "lifer" - I've been daydreaming as far back as I can remember, starting from around the age of 3 (I'm 20 now). The vast majority of characters who reside in my daydreams have always been characters from whichever TV shows or movies I am obsessed with at a given time, and they interact with my idealized self and each other in a setting which I create myself. I tweak the characters' backstories, lifestyles and even personalities in whichever ways I deem fit for the stories I make up about them. In a couple of cases, this has led to the characters barely resembling their "canon" selves. Starting from around the age of 16, I have enjoyed playing "matchmaker" for the characters in my world. I am addicted to slash (same-sex) pairings, and one of my favorite things to do is to pair off characters from different shows/movies whom I think would go well together. I enjoy making up children for them because I think it's fun and interesting to imagine the genetics, parenting styles and family dynamics of different characters.
I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (a form of high-functioning autism), OCD, anxiety disorder and depression. I am on several medications for the latter three, all of which have worked miraculously well and have greatly improved my quality of life. My autism has caused me to be socially inept and unable to work a job or live on my own. I cannot drive either, so I am often stuck at home for days upon days. I very seldom get bored though, because I immerse myself as deeply as I can in my fantasy world.
I access my fantasy world by listening to music on my iPod and running around in circles out in the park that's literally right outside my backyard. I have been made fun of by people for this, but it doesn't bother me very much. When I am in my fantasy world, I am completely oblivious and almost literally blind to everything that is going on in the real world. Therefore, I am not allowed to run in the park unless one of my family members is home to watch over me from the kitchen window. If no one is home with me, if the weather is bad or if it is the middle of the night, I listen to my iPod and pace around my room while walking on tip-toes.
I become very upset and angry if I am interrupted while in my fantasy world. There are some days when I wish everyone would just go away and leave me alone so that I can have hours and hours of uninterrupted daydreaming time.
My urge to daydream becomes overpowering when I watch one of the movies which contain characters who reside in my fantasy world. Many times I can't finish the movie in one sitting because the urge to daydream becomes so strong that I have to pause the movie so that I can pace and go visit the characters in my fantasy world.
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