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Maladaptive Daydreaming: where wild minds come to rest

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It is good to raise awareness .
People think its a disorder(thats what eli somer think) But its not a disorder.Those people who think this are getting into it(MD) and roam these sites.

Those who have little mind know its a typical behavioral addiction.
Same as food and sex addiction. And your mind urge to do this compulsorily like alcohol addict want alcohal you are addicted to the personality in the dream.If you get that you'll dream about other.
Mindful people know this stop it for a reason.

PLEASE AWARE PEOPLE ITS A ADDICTION NOT A DISORDER AND AWARE ELI SOMER TOO.

ITS THE THING YOU HAVE CREATED NOT GOD.

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Comment by Source on June 3, 2016 at 12:03pm: Ram, that happens to all of us. How much do we lose every second to this thing? We would all be better off without the negative consequences it gives, but this is what we're forced to face.
In a way, none of us can afford to wait until Eli Somer finds something, because until he does we're all losing something every second.
Addiction, disorder, seriously who cares?

Comment by Alison on June 3, 2016 at 11:43am: Amity, for any kind of science you need knowledge and experience. And I'm personally arguing not about MDD origins but about Ram's misinterpretation of the terms disorder and addictoon. As for the rest, I agree with you, science can't be based on opinions, especially on too radical and too emotional ones.

Ram, your words still don't make any difference between addiction and disorder to me. I only see that you don't like the word disorder, becoz the word makes you sad. A behavioral addiction is a disorder btw.

"Behavioral addictions, which are sometimes referred to as impulse control disorders, are increasingly recognized as treatable forms of addiction." (c)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_addiction

Comment by Ram on June 3, 2016 at 6:50am: Hey you all please read the whole post by deleting the word mindful my motive was not to disregard rest of MDers.

Initially when i was searching for MD i got to know that it is a disorder and than i think it will not be cured. I was feeling so small that i'am a person with a disorder.I was in a depression .

But soon after months with some my research and by the guidance of a person who has md for 15 years and finally cured himself i find that it is a typical strong behavioral addiction.

Because i find it a addiction could be cured it is a big hope for me and finally i got control over it . And stopped md to a great extent.

Whatever the eli somer finds . I think that will be too late for a person who need a solution at this time frame . So in order to get a solution who want it right now one should decide what the thing it is as i am at 21year old now and i have just 2 to 3 years left for making my career . I can't wait for eli somer .

Comment by Roel on June 3, 2016 at 5:44am: I know many mindfull people that call it a disorder. I don't know what it should be named . I think both theories are plausible here, and if I would have any saying in it I would vote addiction too.

But saying only smart people call it an addiction, suggesting the rest of us here are stupid and wrong for calling it a disorder, I have a problem with that. Have some respect for 'the people roaming the sites' here. They're also people and they're not any dumber than you and they can form their own thoughts and conclusions with whatever science and opinions they can find.

I can understand that being hard on yourself because of your addiction, can be a good tactic for you to fight it or end it. But don't preach to others like that. People that call it a disorder call it that just because it's the name it has been given from the start, or because they think it realy is (or might be) an actual disorder. They are not naming it that just to have an excuse to stop trying to improve theirselves. They are trying to stop it just as much as you are.

The trueth is none of us knows what it is yet. We should wait for science to make some more moves, like Amity is dreaming said. Eli Somer has been doing some good research already. I'm hoping others will start researching this problem we have too soon. And guided by multiple studies we might one day give it a name that is without a doubt the right one. But untill than it's useless to be snob about whatever you choose to call it. We came here to solve our problems, or at the very least talk about it. We did not come here to start arguing over the name of our problems. That would just be silly.

Comment by Fallen Messenger on June 1, 2016 at 4:12pm: Citizen science is very important and I think we all need to look into it. What I'm saying is that we can't base this argument on opinions, we need to base it on science. And we also can do our own research. What this means is that we should not base our conclusions on opinions, but on science -of which we can help do research to reach that goal. I know we all can't do the research because we don't have access to FMRI technology, but we can do citizen science. In a more simplified version what I'm saying is opinions are not fact. Science is fact. We need to base this around fact. And we can our own research to find that fact.

Comment by Alison on June 1, 2016 at 1:03pm: "I don't think we need to jump to conclusions if this is a disorder or not. There is/soon going to be a study finding out if it is a disorder. If their findings realize it is or isn't a disorder, so be it. We can argue about this for hours, but we should just let science figure this out instead."

Yes, really, why even bother to think? I saw you were kinda encouraging people to conduct their own research. I don't argue with either of your two opinions, they just sound very contradictory. Can you explain how you combine them?

Comment by Alison on June 1, 2016 at 1:01pm: "But what if television is switched on in head
and remote is not present."

Then it's a disorder.

Comment by Fallen Messenger on June 1, 2016 at 11:04am: I don't think we need to jump to conclusions if this is a disorder or not. There is/soon going to be a study finding out if it is a disorder. If their findings realize it is or isn't a disorder, so be it. We can argue about this for hours, but we should just let science figure this out instead.

Comment by Ram on June 1, 2016 at 10:50am: Agreed your point
One can stop watching television when necessary .
But what if television is switched on in head
and remote is not present.

When whole football stadium is in your head and you're star player.

I agree to you it's a hard add equal to addiction of most addictive drug
It can't be contolled by shear will power .

I have been dreaming after every 2 minutes for 20 minutes when i don't know this .

Now dream come after every 2 to 4 hours.
I am trying hard to control over it.

I am trying hard and hard to control over it
But it broke up in every 2 hour .

Comment by Alison on May 31, 2016 at 9:39am: Where have you taken this from? Any sources to share?
If you like watching tv series, playing computer games or listening to music for hours but can stop when necessary and it doesn't disturb your real life, it's not an addiction. It's just a hobby - something you like. If you can't stop, it goes out of control and interferes with your life and you always want more, it's an addiction. Use some wikipedia and read about different kinds of addictions. And if it's out of control, it's already a disorder. What you describe next only confirms my words.