Event spirals - Wild Minds network2024-03-29T01:52:54Zhttps://wildminds.ning.com/forum/topics/event-spirals?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think you're confusing the…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-12:4661400:Comment:2553462017-04-12T21:28:20.032ZCamoranhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/Source
<p>I think you're confusing the stages a little. You can't be at 5 and 3 at the same time. Judging by what you said it sounds more like you actually reached stage 5 and now you're simply awake with your daydreaming no longer controlling you like it did before.</p>
<p>You can't really "escape" stage 5, because by that point there's nothing left to escape. What happens there is that you bust out of stage 4, which feels like the flip switch and all the pieces falling into their places like you…</p>
<p>I think you're confusing the stages a little. You can't be at 5 and 3 at the same time. Judging by what you said it sounds more like you actually reached stage 5 and now you're simply awake with your daydreaming no longer controlling you like it did before.</p>
<p>You can't really "escape" stage 5, because by that point there's nothing left to escape. What happens there is that you bust out of stage 4, which feels like the flip switch and all the pieces falling into their places like you described. Which, by the way, is the sort of thing that happened to myself and, I guess, <a href="http://wildminds.ning.com/profile/MatthewR147" target="_blank">Matthew</a> as well.</p> I would like to clarify. My M…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-12:4661400:Comment:2555072017-04-12T15:37:05.539ZFallen Messengerhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/fallenmessenger
I would like to clarify. My MD isn't gone by a long shot but I'm more at stage 3 according to this chart. And I below every maladaptive daydreamers could in theory reach the point of relief of reached in my life
I would like to clarify. My MD isn't gone by a long shot but I'm more at stage 3 according to this chart. And I below every maladaptive daydreamers could in theory reach the point of relief of reached in my life I escaped stage 5. I was suic…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-12:4661400:Comment:2556062017-04-12T15:35:09.828ZFallen Messengerhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/fallenmessenger
I escaped stage 5. I was suicidal and hopeless. For some reason, a flip switched in my brain and everything clicked in place. I found my purpose in life with MD and felt the burden lifted. I still have no idea how this really happened. But im glad i did. Now im kind of back in stage 2, but I can control it more, i feel as if ive finally mastered MD. I use it for what I want I for, it channels my creativity and propels me in kid rather than dragging me down. The frequency of my daydreams hasn't…
I escaped stage 5. I was suicidal and hopeless. For some reason, a flip switched in my brain and everything clicked in place. I found my purpose in life with MD and felt the burden lifted. I still have no idea how this really happened. But im glad i did. Now im kind of back in stage 2, but I can control it more, i feel as if ive finally mastered MD. I use it for what I want I for, it channels my creativity and propels me in kid rather than dragging me down. The frequency of my daydreams hasn't changed, but oh come to terms with it and feel total, complete peace. Childhood is tricky, to be su…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-05:4661400:Comment:2551372017-04-05T18:30:24.059ZCamoranhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/Source
<p>Childhood is tricky, to be sure. In that age range, it's hard to define things clearly when it comes to imagination. Children have a readiness for creativity that grown-ups don't. That applies to me as well, I clearly wasn't the only one playing pretend with the other kids when I was 7, the problem is that I didn't grow out of it.</p>
<p>Childhood is tricky, to be sure. In that age range, it's hard to define things clearly when it comes to imagination. Children have a readiness for creativity that grown-ups don't. That applies to me as well, I clearly wasn't the only one playing pretend with the other kids when I was 7, the problem is that I didn't grow out of it.</p> Stage 2 isn't MDD yet, imagin…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-04:4661400:Comment:2552212017-04-04T20:33:53.778ZCamoranhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/Source
<p>Stage 2 isn't MDD yet, imagination is taking power but it still doesn't have the uncontrollable, all-consuming aspects that MDD has. It's still in the "incubation period" range, for lack of a better term. This leaves a window for escaping it, in fact I don't think that stage 3 comes naturally, instead requiring a "push" in the form of a bad enough (or ever worsening) situation.</p>
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<p>About stage 5, yes and no. The crash itself isn't exactly a stage because it's really one moment…</p>
<p>Stage 2 isn't MDD yet, imagination is taking power but it still doesn't have the uncontrollable, all-consuming aspects that MDD has. It's still in the "incubation period" range, for lack of a better term. This leaves a window for escaping it, in fact I don't think that stage 3 comes naturally, instead requiring a "push" in the form of a bad enough (or ever worsening) situation.</p>
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<p>About stage 5, yes and no. The crash itself isn't exactly a stage because it's really one moment between stage 4 and the wakeup, but I put it in there for convenience and also because it isn't guaranteed to happen. There could be cases where the downward spiral lasts too long, if you catch my drift.</p>
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<p>Are you saying that you reached stage 2 and then managed to escape?</p> I doubt you would be able to…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-03:4661400:Comment:2552112017-04-03T11:24:52.757ZCamoranhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/Source
<p>I doubt you would be able to truly connect to other people either way, that would require a way of communicating that basically involves linking the minds directly, and we obviously can't do that in this age. Even without the exacerbation that comes with MDD, communication as we know it is wrapped in several layers of distortion and secrecy. Have you ever talked to someone and felt like "That's it? That's all that there is to this person?"? That's what I'm talking about.</p>
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<p>I doubt you would be able to truly connect to other people either way, that would require a way of communicating that basically involves linking the minds directly, and we obviously can't do that in this age. Even without the exacerbation that comes with MDD, communication as we know it is wrapped in several layers of distortion and secrecy. Have you ever talked to someone and felt like "That's it? That's all that there is to this person?"? That's what I'm talking about.</p>
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<p>This feeling of despair and hopelessness is the most prominent effect of the flood of daydreams suddenly vanishing, leaving you exposed to the relatively immense void that's left where the fake mass used to be. You're simply feeling the way things have become while you weren't looking (read: you couldn't see). However, a lot of empty space is a lot of space, and you can use that space to build stuff.</p>
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<p>Side note: I forgot to mention what the curse of knowledge is, back up in the post.</p>
<p>[1] The curse of knowledge is a phenomenon in which a person explaining something to someone automatically assumes that the other person knows enough to understand, which may not be the case. See <a rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge" target="_blank">here</a> for the juicy details.</p> By your own account, I'm wres…tag:wildminds.ning.com,2017-04-03:4661400:Comment:2551192017-04-03T04:13:31.913ZMatthewRhttps://wildminds.ning.com/profile/MatthewR147
<p>By your own account, I'm wrestling with Stage 5. I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. Right now I feel more or less dead inside. I have no passion, no enthusiasm, very little hope for the future. It's very tempting to dive back into fantasy, because it provides comfort and distraction.</p>
<p>Right now I am becoming more aware of anger, hatred, and more intense feelings of abandonment. They were always there, but I had completely suppressed them. I feel like i'm trapped in a…</p>
<p>By your own account, I'm wrestling with Stage 5. I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. Right now I feel more or less dead inside. I have no passion, no enthusiasm, very little hope for the future. It's very tempting to dive back into fantasy, because it provides comfort and distraction.</p>
<p>Right now I am becoming more aware of anger, hatred, and more intense feelings of abandonment. They were always there, but I had completely suppressed them. I feel like i'm trapped in a wasteland, and I'm having trouble deciding what to do. I think i should have more social interest, more involvement with others, but i feel cut off somehow. I feel like i can't make the connection to anyone else. This leads me to despair. So if i can describe my general attitude right now it would be just that, a sense of despair and hopelessness. I don't know what comes next. :/ </p>